1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,440 Okay, so you won't know this, but this is literally the second attempt to recording this 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,940 fucking podcast episode this morning. 3 00:00:11,940 --> 00:00:15,700 I have no idea what happened. 4 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:20,900 I was over at my other recording desk, the one that I actually run the radio station 5 00:00:20,900 --> 00:00:27,040 off of, WRTO.fm, and I mean, I've been recording perfectly fine. 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:57,020 I've done a lot of this. I've done a lot of this. I've done a lot of 7 00:00:57,020 --> 00:01:01,220 calling number, and you can text it. I'll get into that in a bit, but I have no idea what 8 00:01:01,220 --> 00:01:07,840 happened. I mean, I thought I was copying over what I had recorded, spent about 40 minutes 9 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:15,420 recording it, and I go to start editing it, and I'm like, wait a minute, this is from last 10 00:01:15,420 --> 00:01:22,160 week. This is a Morning Drip episode, and even though it was just happily showing me that it 11 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:52,140 . I was recording, it was recording, it was a recording, it was a 12 00:01:52,140 --> 00:02:00,600 1122 days of alcohol retirement. Around May 27th, I celebrated my three-year soberversary, 13 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:07,020 and I had thought about trying to put something together and record around that time, but I just 14 00:02:07,020 --> 00:02:17,280 didn't. Life got in the way, etc., etc., etc. So there's that, and I'll try to condense this 15 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:23,660 episode a little bit better than the first attempt. I've been working on a lot of coding 16 00:02:23,660 --> 00:02:31,200 projects with Cloud Code and recently using OpenAI's codecs, and I'll be the first to tell you, 17 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,820 because I joke with my son, Tyler, and his older brother, Devin, that I am a toddler with a hand 18 00:02:36,820 --> 00:02:40,800 grenade when it comes to this kind of stuff, because I am not a software developer. I'm not a software 19 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,440 engineer. I have mentioned this before. The last time I dabbled in any real software, 20 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:54,340 quote, real in air quotes, was back in Visual Basic when I wrote a work order program for back 21 00:02:54,340 --> 00:03:00,040 when I was working at CityNet, and I just needed something that would streamline the process instead 22 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:07,720 of those damn forms that we were using. So what really got me started on using the Cloud Code was, 23 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:14,420 I've got this one client. They make forklifts, and one day we were actually talking about something 24 00:03:14,420 --> 00:03:21,600 else, and the CEO of the company, who's a friend of mine, sent me a picture of this form that the 25 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:28,460 dealers use for filling out to get compensated for warranty repairs, because this company, they sell 26 00:03:28,460 --> 00:03:33,240 the forklifts to the dealer, and the dealer, of course, handles the transaction, selling it to the 27 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,780 incline, that kind of thing. And I thought, well, shit, this will be a great opportunity to see how 28 00:03:38,780 --> 00:03:45,080 well this thing can actually do something like this. So I believe that was a Thursday morning. By that 29 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Thursday afternoon, about four o'clock, I called him and I got him to take a look at it. So anyway, 30 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:58,860 we've been working on that. It'll allow the dealers to register themselves so they can go in and 31 00:03:58,860 --> 00:04:05,700 actually complete the warranty registration. They can submit warranty claims if they need to. 32 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:12,840 There's also an area where certain forklift models will have manuals that only dealers can get access 33 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:22,100 to, you know, that type of thing. So it may be the first project that I actually use clog code for that 34 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:27,880 I'll get paid for because the owner understands that I'm, I put this together to make their lives easier 35 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:34,400 and they're not getting it for free. Some pet projects. I love bulletin board systems. We used to 36 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:40,340 run a, it was a company I worked for back in the nineties, Colony Telephone. They were a 37 00:04:40,340 --> 00:04:48,660 Radio Shack franchise, uh, dealer. Uh, the owner of the company was a been with AT&T for 23 years, 38 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:56,800 maintaining microwave, uh, microwave towers. Matter of fact, the automated beacon that is on these 39 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:03,220 towers that are above 200 feet so that airplanes and what have you can see those. He developed that. 40 00:05:03,220 --> 00:05:07,920 He just didn't keep the patent up, which I always told him when he told me that story, I should, 41 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:14,840 somebody should have kicked him in the ass. Anyway, around 93 or 94, we decided that we, 42 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:20,580 we were late to the game. We, we shouldn't have done this, but we ran our own, we started our own 43 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:25,720 bulletin board system right there in good old Fitzgerald, Georgia. It was two lines and it was 44 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:33,560 called Peach Online. And I literally was running wildcat bulletin board software in DOS, uh, boxes under 45 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:43,160 OS 2 and it worked great. We also had a six disc Pioneer, uh, CD changer that was, had a shit ton of 46 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,400 shareware. Cause that's the thing you did is you downloaded a bunch of shareware off of bulletin boards. 47 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:55,120 We also did echo mail and internet mail. Uh, we had an automated process where every night at midnight, 48 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,260 it would call up and send out all of them, all of the, you got to keep in mind, this was real time 49 00:06:00,260 --> 00:06:05,380 email for bulletin boards. Wasn't really a thing at that point. And so it would send out all the email 50 00:06:05,380 --> 00:06:10,420 to go into the, to internet email and echo mail and all of that. And we had a satellite dish 51 00:06:10,420 --> 00:06:17,480 that every night would also pull down all of the incoming mail and what was called bag files. It was dot B-A-G. 52 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:24,020 And then the wildcat system had an automated process where it would take that and break it apart and put 53 00:06:24,020 --> 00:06:29,860 it on all the various, uh, discussion groups and echo mail and that kind of thing. So we ran that 54 00:06:29,860 --> 00:06:34,900 probably for about six months or so. And then of course the internet basically killed most bulletin boards 55 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:41,700 at the time. But, uh, I was like, you know what, can I, can I make a BBS emulator that kind of looks 56 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:47,780 like wildcat? And the short answer was yes, it's over at bbs.anero.com. Funny thing though, is my 57 00:06:47,780 --> 00:06:54,420 wife and my daughter were going through our massive, uh, CD collection the other day and actually came 58 00:06:54,420 --> 00:07:04,200 across, I still have it, wildcat five for windows 95 and windows NT, the disc with the key in the 59 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:10,700 registration code for a 16 line count. And also in this thing is something called project annihilator, 60 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:17,040 which was the first true 32 bit client server BBS. Uh, they were, they were doing their damnedest. 61 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,620 I think the wildcat five got renamed to the, the net server platform. They were doing their damnedest to 62 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:28,100 compete, uh, with the internet, tried to, I guess, integrate with the internet, kind of like what AOL 63 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:33,500 did there for a while. They eventually went out of business and somebody at some other company, 64 00:07:33,500 --> 00:07:40,180 it starts with an S I can never remember actually owns the license for the wildcat stuff. But so what 65 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:47,560 I'm trying to do now is since I have the bonafide thing, I found a copy of windows 95, uh, rather 66 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:55,560 98 SE second edition, got it running, um, running in some, it's under proxmox. I run everything under 67 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:01,900 proxmox and, uh, trying to get the networking situated because what I want to do is I want to run 68 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:09,980 this and instead of having Claude make this BBS, uh, uh, emulator, which I essentially have done, 69 00:08:09,980 --> 00:08:16,520 I, I want it just to be a front end that actually uses Xterm or whatever to actually come in and hit 70 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:22,160 the true wildcat server. So, you know, I'll keep you updated on whether I get that project working 71 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:29,540 or not. And so, um, yeah, because you know, we had gotten to the point with BBSs. So if you dialed 72 00:08:29,540 --> 00:08:34,240 into a bulletin board system, you had to have some communication software, like procom plus Q 73 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:40,360 modem, something like that. And, uh, right there at the end, because all the bulletin boards were 74 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,440 basically, they were just text or they were antsy texts where you actually would get color and things 75 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:51,920 of that nature. But then they started implementing this thing called rip, rip graphics and bulletin 76 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:57,140 board software started supporting it. And then of course, your client had to support it because what it 77 00:08:57,140 --> 00:09:06,440 would do is it would send directions, um, basically code, if you will, to your client software that would 78 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:12,720 then paint the screen. So you'd get these nice, nice buttons that you could press with a mouse or you 79 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:19,780 could move, you know, tab over and stuff like that. And so you had to have a rip graphics enabled BBS 80 00:09:19,780 --> 00:09:26,640 software and you'd have to have rip graphics, uh, enabled client. And I think Q modem did support that 81 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:32,140 right there at the end. Procom plus may have eventually, but, but then the internet came in 82 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:35,980 and basically cut all of that. There's still some bulletin boards out there that actually take calls 83 00:09:35,980 --> 00:09:44,080 over the phone lines. But if you do a search for wildcat, you will find listings for active wildcat 84 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:50,300 installations, but you connect to them via telnet because it did support that. A few other things I've 85 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:56,240 been working on, um, I did a podcast membership and hosting platform called Podscope. You want to check 86 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:05,180 it out. It's over at podscope.cc. I'm actually using it at tiftonmediaworks.com. I developed a document 87 00:10:05,180 --> 00:10:08,960 management system because I didn't like what was available out there. I think there's one called 88 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:16,800 paperless GX or GL or something like that. Probably great, um, a great project. It was just 89 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,240 way too out of scope. Funny for what I'm about to tell you, this project's called, but what I needed, 90 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:28,520 uh, because all my documents are stored on shares on my Synology NAS on my internal network. And so I just 91 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:34,600 needed something that could monitor those, um, put it into a database and, you know, basically make it 92 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:41,960 searchable. So I created a project called scope and that's what it does. It runs in a privileged LXE 93 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:50,460 container because of SMB issues for unprivileged LXE containers. And it monitors two shares that I have 94 00:10:50,460 --> 00:10:58,000 on my NAS. And as soon as it detects new documents, whether it's PDFs or whether it's, um, graphics files, 95 00:10:58,220 --> 00:11:05,020 it takes it, it OCRs it, and then it shoots it over to another container that I've got running Ollama 96 00:11:05,020 --> 00:11:14,600 where it's using one of the models to take the OCR text, summarize it, and then suggest tags and then 97 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:20,260 stores it. And then I can, you know, I can see it in a listing. I can bring it up. I can, honestly, 98 00:11:20,260 --> 00:11:25,120 I can download it if I want to, but I mean, it's already on my server. And so that's worked really 99 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,880 great. I think that one's publicly available. Uh, I have a Git repository that I run at 100 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:37,820 get.knowthenerds.com. So any of my public projects are there. So you can, you can check them out and 101 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:42,660 see what's available. I redid my radio station with Cloud Code. I basically said, Hey, look, uh, 102 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:48,840 redesign this thing and let's create some cool player widgets and integrate some weather and all of that. 103 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:54,820 So go check that out at wrto.fm. I actually have a couple of containers. Uh, one is a watchdog that 104 00:11:54,820 --> 00:12:00,940 that watches to see if radio DJ, which is a free play out software I use has stopped playing. And if 105 00:12:00,940 --> 00:12:07,820 so, it will try to fire it off using API code, uh, calls to start it back up. Uh, there's another one 106 00:12:07,820 --> 00:12:14,740 that as I add new music, it scans the file and tries to write the cue markers for the intros. 107 00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:21,820 Uh, and the big one, the big one I'm working on is called core. It's an MSP dashboard. I currently use, 108 00:12:21,820 --> 00:12:25,540 uh, uh, and the MSP services of a company called enable. 109 00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:31,380 And so my friend Ben started working on his own platform and I was like, well, let me, let me, me to me. 110 00:12:31,380 --> 00:12:37,780 Okay. And so I call mine core. And honestly, I, I love what it's been able to do so far. 111 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,580 Uh, we have this, we use this methodology where he calls his sentinels. I call mine centuries, 112 00:12:43,580 --> 00:12:49,460 but they're, they're little nodes, if you will, whether it's, uh, in a Docker container, which I 113 00:12:49,460 --> 00:12:55,520 recently got working or an LXE container or a dedicated PC, whether that's just like an old 114 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:02,480 throwaway PC that won't run windows 11, but it's, it's a Linux based software that checks in with the 115 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:09,380 dashboard. My century checks into core using cloud flare tunnels. And this, and whenever I need to 116 00:13:09,380 --> 00:13:14,200 create a new century, like I add a new client, I create a century. It creates the tokens and 117 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,920 everything so that the century can be deployed and connect securely back to core over cloud 118 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:26,220 flares tunneling network. I also can deploy a piece of software called scout, which runs in 119 00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:34,280 the tray. That, uh, is how I pull telemetry. I've integrated my, my rust desk relay server to be able 120 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:42,380 to basically go to an endpoint in core, tell it, I want to connect via rust desk and can get right into 121 00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:52,600 the machine and assess the client. And, uh, I can image a PC using WIM limit, uh, lib X, I think is 122 00:13:52,600 --> 00:14:00,240 what it's called anyway, with a Dism fallback. And then I can have it create, uh, an ISO so that I can 123 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:06,840 throw that in Hyper-V or Proxmox and get a machine back up and going if I need to, or if I just need to 124 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:12,560 take it and, you know, image it to, uh, uh, another drive and then throw it in the machine. Maybe the, 125 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:17,660 you know, the drive started dying on us or something and we caught it in time. A lot of functionality, 126 00:14:17,660 --> 00:14:23,460 a lot of functionality, been doing a lot. My brain's on fire with all kinds of crap that we 127 00:14:23,460 --> 00:14:29,940 can do. I've got two projects in the pipeline. One I've started working on, uh, I use 3CX as a phone 128 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:35,840 server for my client and for myself, but a conversation with my friend Ben the other day made me think, 129 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:44,200 well, hell, can I build using asterisk as the, as the foundation, my own 3CX like package? 130 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:53,660 And the answer is yes. So I have it designed. And what I've started doing is because Opus is smarter 131 00:14:53,660 --> 00:15:00,020 when it comes to Claude, but it does burn up more tokens. I have Opus do the design specifically so 132 00:15:00,020 --> 00:15:07,220 that Sonnet can build it. Then I have Sonnet build it. Then I have Opus do a final code review for 133 00:15:07,220 --> 00:15:12,320 security vulnerabilities and, and basically just shit that doesn't work right. And here lately, 134 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:20,040 I've started using open AI as codecs to go behind Claude and do a review. And then I have Claude 135 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:28,000 Opus review codecs, review and requirements and see if it agrees and then do the fixes and what have 136 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:35,840 you. So I feel like, because my son Tyler is big thing is he's not anti AI, but even in his line of 137 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:42,800 work, he's, he's realizing that again, toddler with a hand grenade, there are some junior developers out 138 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:48,960 there that are just blindly following what the AI tells them. And you know, it's, it's a trust, 139 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:55,180 but verify. And in this situation, it's a trust, but verify, verify, verify. And so that's what I've, 140 00:15:55,180 --> 00:16:00,200 I've started doing. And, um, I'm sure there's other little projects that I'm, cause every time I come up 141 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,500 with an idea, I'm like, Ooh, let me scope that out and start working on a project. I've got one right 142 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:12,700 now that I started yesterday. We're in like phase four, uh, out of eight. Uh, I use FreshBooks at 143 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:19,360 freshbooks.com to do all the billing for my clients. Uh, I can do, you know, I can do manually generated 144 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:26,200 invoices. I can do automated invoices for people that are under contract. Um, it can do auto pay and 145 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:33,360 stuff like that. But when I started out with them years ago, it was $25 and now it's $38 a month. 146 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,360 And so I was like, can I build my own? Because I already use Stripe, you know, with FreshBooks, 147 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:44,700 I have my own Stripe account, Tifton Media Works, that management platform where, you know, I drop, 148 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:52,240 I drop episodes of the morning drip that I do, uh, for free for seven days. And then it goes behind 149 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:59,080 to paywall. All of that membership architecture connects with a company that I have one, one of 150 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:05,740 a couple of companies I have with Stripe. So I was like, let me see. Am I, do I expect to get away 151 00:17:05,740 --> 00:17:12,000 from FreshBooks in the next couple of weeks? Oh, hell no. This is a proof of concept. What can I build? 152 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:18,080 And let's figure out what functionality that FreshBooks actually has that this doesn't have, 153 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,880 and that I can't duplicate, you know, that kind of thing. I'm, I don't think there's too much that I 154 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:31,000 can't duplicate, especially with the fact that I'm not storing credit cards, but Stripe handles all of 155 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:39,000 that. The only thing I have in question is I currently can do ACH, which only costs me a percent 156 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,860 of the total with FreshBooks. I don't know if Stripe can do that or if I have to set up an account 157 00:17:44,860 --> 00:17:49,880 with Plaid or something like that. I don't know. We'll get there. We'll figure it out. But I'm having 158 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:55,500 a lot of fun with this stuff. And it's also helping me diagnose some issues with clients. 159 00:17:55,500 --> 00:18:04,900 Yeah. AI is here to stay. That's all I can say. Should we blindly follow it and run into the ditch 160 00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:10,380 when it, when it basically is going to drive us there? I mean, no, but we got it. I'm using it to 161 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:16,860 boost what I can do in my job, in my company, but I'm not using it to replace anybody because, 162 00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:22,300 well, there's only me. So if AI can replace me, I mean, that's great. If I could still make money 163 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:27,480 and not have to worry about it. And every time a client had a problem, they just talk to the AI, 164 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,660 not even realizing they're talking to the AI and it could solve their problem and they're happy, 165 00:18:31,660 --> 00:18:36,820 then I'd be happy. But we're not there yet. I know that's where my friend Ben is trying to head, 166 00:18:36,820 --> 00:18:41,840 but I'm not sure. I still like to have my hands into it because I don't want to lose the knowledge 167 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:53,840 that I've gained over the last 35 years of being in technology. So anyway, yeah, I think that gets you 168 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:00,880 kind of caught up on that aspect of it. As I'm recording this, today is the 22nd of June. Yesterday 169 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:07,160 was father's day and, um, okay. It was, it was, it was a, it was a day. It was okay. Yeah. I've got 170 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:14,020 three kids, but my youngest, my daughter is 29. So, uh, she did something for me like she does for, 171 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:21,140 for me and for her mom, uh, every year. Um, she made me some red velvet sandwich cookies. Now you may 172 00:19:21,140 --> 00:19:28,060 be asking yourself, what is a red velvet sandwich cookie? So a few years ago, my daughter came across 173 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:35,020 this recipe. And so she essentially takes cake mix, but I think she reduces the amount of liquid 174 00:19:35,020 --> 00:19:43,060 that goes in it. And so instead of it churning out a cake texture, it turns out something that's in 175 00:19:43,060 --> 00:19:50,260 between cake and cookie. So it's not like tears apart, like cake does, but it doesn't, it's not 176 00:19:50,260 --> 00:19:55,340 like stiff and crunchy. Like some cookies are, it kind of melts in your mouth. And so she takes 177 00:19:55,340 --> 00:20:00,880 that, makes it out of red velvet cake mix and then takes buttercream icing and sandwiches that 178 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:08,120 between the two halves. So you have red velvet, uh, cookies or sandwich cookies and they are fucking 179 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:14,520 awesome, man. Fucking awesome. So she made those Friday and yesterday for lunch, my wife was going 180 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:21,200 to do these, um, Philly cheesesteak meatballs, but we wound up buying the wrong vegetable mix for that. 181 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,380 And it really, it seemed to upset her. And I told her, I said, honey, don't worry about it. 182 00:20:25,380 --> 00:20:29,680 You know, next weekend, if you want to do it, that's great. Just because it's Father's Day, 183 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:35,360 no big deal. What's our, what's our plan B? So we wound up having chili. And then we watched, uh, 184 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:40,720 the Super Mario Galaxy movie, which it was, it was good to me. It's not as good as the first movie, 185 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:46,320 but it was good. And then we watched, uh, alien Romulus. So if you're, if you like alien, 186 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:51,380 the alien franchise and alien movies, it was pretty good. It was pretty good. I, I enjoyed it. 187 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:57,060 Not, it's not the type of movie my wife likes, but she sat there and watched it with us too. So that 188 00:20:57,060 --> 00:21:02,300 was my, that was my Father's Day. I, you know, the Mother's Day and the Father's Day things, 189 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:09,200 I, you know, we, we don't go crazy over that. Um, it's just another day. Okay. Thank you. I 190 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:15,380 appreciate it. You, you wish me happy Father's Day. Um, the cookies are nice and, and I enjoyed the day, 191 00:21:15,380 --> 00:21:20,960 but I don't expect any kind of special treatment or anything like that. So, I mean, that's kind of 192 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,740 the way I feel on my birthday. You know, I didn't have anything to do with the, of the fact that I was 193 00:21:25,740 --> 00:21:33,280 born. It just was, you know, so if you're a father, I hope you, uh, hope you had a great 194 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,260 Father's Day yesterday. And I think since this is my second attempt and I'm not going to be able to 195 00:21:38,260 --> 00:21:42,480 cover everything that I did in the first attempt. And I know this one's going to be shorter than the 196 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:48,440 first attempt. I'm going to bid you adieu. If you are on a sobriety journey, I wish you well. I hope 197 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,740 you're doing great. Um, yeah, cause it's a journey. You know, I know, can't believe I've made it 198 00:21:54,740 --> 00:22:00,040 three years. First time ever. And I'm just going to keep going, keep moving on. Uh, if you want to 199 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:05,060 reach out, uh, have any questions, comments, or concerns, uh, the email address is podcast 200 00:22:05,060 --> 00:22:12,820 at bookofdonovan.com. Again, that's podcast at bookofdonovan.com. So in case it's probably another 201 00:22:12,820 --> 00:22:19,440 month from now, um, I hope you have a fantastic 4th of July because I probably won't drop something for 202 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:26,920 this podcast, uh, before then, who knows? It might not even be in July. If I don't have anything to say, 203 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:32,680 there's no reason to, you know, waste your time, right? Anyway, I hope you're doing well. Take care 204 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:46,380 of yourselves and we'll talk soon. Bye-bye. 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